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Igor Stasenko siguctua at gmail.com
Sat Nov 27 03:33:40 CET 2010


2010/11/26 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek at eranova.si>:
> On 26. 11. 2010 18:20, csrabak at bol.com.br wrote:
>> Em 24/11/2010 11:50, Jan van de Sandt < jvdsandt at gmail.com > escreveu:
>
>>>   A  Smalltalk variant would  use Smalltalk  as the  source language
>>> instead of Java,  the other parts of GWT can be  reused. GWT is open
>>> source (Apache 2.0 license).
>
>> I think we have first to evaluate to what audience/market are thinking of
>> targeting this effort, then estimate the effort, in order to see if its
>> worth it.
>
> Specially we the web guys are very interested of such a beast, because
> we need to develop more in more on the client side and in JavaScript,
> which is a bit hard, because of our Smalltalk habits, you know :)
>
> Even more, Smalltalk on the client (Clamato way) can also solve one of
> the main JavaScript problems: debugging on the client side. If we can
> have near the same debugger on the client as we have in our IDE's, well,
> this would be a huge step forward.
>
indeed. debugging JS is hard. Most of the times, all you can do is to
put 'alert(...)'
in interesting places, to see what's going wrong.
But there are things, like
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/venkman/
didn't tried it.

>> If the attempt is a reinterpretation a Smalltalk base development environment
>> would make a difference in the ecosystem we must check if we aren't flared
>> by our preference of languages versus operational pragmatics.
>>
>> If the idea is to have such environment to the present (and sadly minute)
>> community of Smalltalk developers, probably the effort would attend to a
>> very small clientèle and the returns will be elusive and the project will
>> end orphan.
>
> --
> Janko Mivšek
> AIDA/Web
> Smalltalk Web Application Server
> http://www.aidaweb.si
>
>



-- 
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.




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