[Pharo-project] Pharo integration in enterprise feedback

csrabak at bol.com.br csrabak at bol.com.br
Sun Nov 28 18:50:59 CET 2010

Yes. this makes another side of the equation: for 95% of clients technology
is not pertinent while it does become impediment to the achievement of
some part of the project.

But, IIRC the idea was to gather info to convince people who have to or want
to select some technology.

Cesar Rabak

Em 27/11/2010 13:24, Germán Arduino < garduino at gmail.com > escreveu:

My own experience as a small software company is that most of my
customers don't ask for a specific technology, only are searching some
sort of business solutions ( but almost the 95% of my customers are
small companies also, without internal developers or with no more than
2 or 3).

In this context, selling business solutions more than talk about the
technology behind, I have no problems in introduce
Pharo/Squeak/Dolphin applications.


2010/11/27 Tudor Girba :
> Hi,
> I recently introduced Pharo in a small-medium software company (parametrix.ch). They use it for Moose (moosetechnology.org) to analyze their systems written in various languages and to introduce an assessment approach in their day to day development process (humane-assessment.com). A number of them are now learning to program in Pharo and Moose.
> Cheers,
> Doru
> On 26 Nov 2010, at 22:07, laurent laffont wrote:
>> Indeed I don't want a "how to integrate Pharo into enterprise", I want a "actually I have introduce Pharo in my enterprise and why; what works and what doesn't".
>> Laurent.
>> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:37 PM,  wrote:
>> Em 26/11/2010 07:03, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck at gmail.com > escreveu:
>> > On   Thu,   Nov   25,    2010   at   10:40   PM,   laurent   laffont
>> > >  wrote: Hi, I'm looking for feedback on
>> > >  Pharo integration in enterprise.  Especially how you have managed
>> > >  to put  Pharo in your  enterprise.  For example, I'm  involved in
>> > >  web application development in other
>> > > languages.  For functional  testing  I'm able  to script  Selenium
>> > > using Pharo thanks  to WebTester.  So Pharo has  made a small step
>> > > at my work.
>> >
>> >
>> >  Just   show   them   the   diff   in  time/money   for   the   same
>> > development. (BTW, I don't have experience on that heheheh).
>> Mariano, trust me, I have twenty years of experience on this, and have to
>> tell you: language or more generally the technology has a very small
>> impact in the result you're after to show as 'proof' of supremacy for
>> Pharo in the enterprise. . .
>> Processes, the skill level of the developers, the efficacy of management
>> are much more important.
>> I will stay away of more hard discussions which would involve the statistical
>> validation of the findings before one can trump any result as gun smoke.
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Cesar Rabak
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