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mirko.kiefer at arcor.de
Sun Nov 28 21:30:09 CET 2010
On 11/27/10 3:33 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> 2010/11/26 Janko Mivšek<janko.mivsek at eranova.si>:
>> On 26. 11. 2010 18:20, csrabak at bol.com.br wrote:
>>> Em 24/11/2010 11:50, Jan van de Sandt< jvdsandt at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>> A Smalltalk variant would use Smalltalk as the source language
>>>> instead of Java, the other parts of GWT can be reused. GWT is open
>>>> source (Apache 2.0 license).
>>> I think we have first to evaluate to what audience/market are thinking of
>>> targeting this effort, then estimate the effort, in order to see if its
>>> worth it.
>> Specially we the web guys are very interested of such a beast, because
>> which is a bit hard, because of our Smalltalk habits, you know :)
>> Even more, Smalltalk on the client (Clamato way) can also solve one of
>> have near the same debugger on the client as we have in our IDE's, well,
>> this would be a huge step forward.
> indeed. debugging JS is hard. Most of the times, all you can do is to
> put 'alert(...)'
> in interesting places, to see what's going wrong.
> But there are things, like
> didn't tried it.
Igor, I recommend having a look at the build in developer tools in
Safari or Google Chrome (they are the same). They give you a very
powerful debugging and profiling environment and the option to inspect
actually very little that you would miss from Pharo.
>>> If the attempt is a reinterpretation a Smalltalk base development environment
>>> would make a difference in the ecosystem we must check if we aren't flared
>>> by our preference of languages versus operational pragmatics.
>>> If the idea is to have such environment to the present (and sadly minute)
>>> community of Smalltalk developers, probably the effort would attend to a
>>> very small clientèle and the returns will be elusive and the project will
>>> end orphan.
>> Janko Mivšek
>> Smalltalk Web Application Server
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