[Pharo-project] Fwd: Company using Pharo [was: Have started an independent developer activity]
laurent.laffont at gmail.com
Mon Apr 11 13:34:18 CEST 2011
Thanks Thierry !
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From: Gmail perso <zebourk at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Have started an independent developer activity
- Thank you
To: laurent laffont <laurent.laffont at gmail.com>
Of course! You can add Alsim (http://ww.alsim.com/) to the list of company
using Pharo. For the details, we are still in early stage of adoption, but
it is really promising.
As the best way to learn is to practice, we have started the development of
a tool for our stock management, as the model is quite simple. The aim is to
learn, and to validate some concepts too, like the use of a web interface.
So we use:
* Seaside for the web part
* Magma for the data persistence.
For the moment, it is still in early stage of development, but it is growing
quite fast. I think I will be able to give you more feed back soon.
On lundi 11 avril 2011 at 09:52, laurent laffont wrote:
On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 10:01 PM, ZeBourk <zebourk at gmail.com> wrote:
And thank you for having given me the motivation to dive into
smalltalk. Now I have introduced it in the company I work for, and
it's really fun.
Can we add it to http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories ?
I wish you success, too.
2011/4/9 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont at gmail.com>:
> I discovered Smalltalk and Pharo almost three years ago and just after
> Chad Fowler book "Passionate Programmer" (1st edition title was "My job
> to India"). These have changed my developer life, how I perceive software
> and that great technology is fun, people doing it more. You're a cool
> community and I'm proud to be there.
> Now I've started an aside (paid :) independent developer activity thanks
> a cool guy. That would not be possible without all the stuff I learn every
> day from the community and the urge to continue you give me.
> Each time I've made a step forward (open a blog, write ProfStef, fix bugs,
> create PharoCasts) I've been amazed that the generated effects were those
> described in Passionate Programmer (go read it !) The last chapter is "Go
> independent" so now I need the sequel ;)
> Special big thank you to Stéphane Ducasse - you're crazy :) Long live
> PS: nice piece of Passionate Programmer:
> When I was in India weeding through hundreds of candidates for only
> tens of jobs, the interview team was exhausting itself and running out
> of time because of a poor interview-to-hire hit rate. Heads hurting and
> eyes red, we held a late-night meeting to discuss a strategic change in
> way we would go through the candidates. We had to either optimize the
> process so we could interview more people or somehow interview better
> people (or both). With what little was left of my voice after twelve
> hours of trying to drag answers out of dumbstruck programmers, I argued
> for adding Smalltalk to the list of keywords our headhunters were using
> to search their résumé database. But, nobody knows Smalltalk in India,
> the human resources director. That was my point. Nobody knew it, and
> programming in Smalltalk was a fundamentally different experience than
> programming in Java. The varying experience would give candidates a
> different level of expectations, and the dynamic nature of the Smalltalk
> environment would reshape the way a Java programmer would approach
> a problem. My hope was that these factors would encourage a level of
> technical maturity that I hadn’t been seeing from the candidates I’d met
> The addition of Smalltalk to the requirements list yielded a candidate
> that was tiny in contrast to our previous list. These people were diamonds
> in the rough. They really understood object-oriented programming. They
> were aware that Java isn’t the idealistic panacea it’s sometimes made out
> to be. Many of them loved to program! Where have you been for the past two
> weeks? we thought.
> Unfortunately, our ability to attract these developers for the salaries we
> were able to pay was limited. They were calling the shots, and most of
> them chose to stay where they were or to keep looking for a new job.
> Though we failed to recruit many of them, we learned a valuable recruit-
> ing lesson: we were more likely to extend offers to candidates with
> (and even unorthodox) experience than to those whose experiences were
> homogenous. My explanation is that either the good people seek out
> diversity, because they love to learn new things, or being forced into
> experiences and environments created more mature, well-rounded soft-
> ware developers. I suspect it’s a little of both, but regardless of why it
> works, we learned that it works. I still use this technique when looking
> for developers.
> Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs
> Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/
> Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/
> Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st
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