[Pharo-project] Better debugging...

Alexandre Bergel alexandre.bergel at me.com
Mon Apr 25 21:07:54 CEST 2011


I read this some times ago. Thanks for the link. I am interested to see which kind of "query" we can formulate for an execution.

Cheers,
Alexandre


On 25 Apr 2011, at 13:50, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:

> Alexandre: have you ever look to http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/blog?dialog=smalltak-meets-dtrace   ?
> He has integrated DTrace into the SqueakVM. 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTrace
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> Maybe it is of help...
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> Cheers
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> mariano
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> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel at me.com> wrote:
> > I understand. But no matter the UI / environment / frontend , you will need first the "backend" (call it as you want).
> 
> Yeah, we need an implementation :-)
> Your work is indeed important. I foresee nice discussions at esug.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
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> > >
> > > "What is the exact difference of execution if I slightly change a method?"
> > > "If I call #foo it works, if I call #foo2 it does not work. Why? What are the objects that appears with #foo2 that do not appear with #foo?"
> > > All these questions are essential in my opinion.
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> > > I agree.
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> > > Code profiler and code debugger are pretty poor. I can continue with test code coverage tools.
> > > After all, Computer Science is a pretty young science.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Alexandre
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> > >
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> > > On 25 Apr 2011, at 07:34, Craig Latta wrote:
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> > > >
> > > > Hi Alexandre--
> > > >
> > > >> Debugging, as well as profiling, is a topic that everybody got it
> > > >> wrong. We still debug an application in oo in the same way that
> > > >> people debugged their C program: thinking in term of call stack and
> > > >> stack frame instead of objects.
> > > >
> > > >     So tell us more! :)  How do you express causality?
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> > > >
> > > > -C
> > > >
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> > > > + 1 415 287 3547
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