[Pharo-project] OpenCroquet Website

Schwab,Wilhelm K bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
Tue Feb 22 15:21:28 CET 2011

My read on OpenCobalt was that it was not a fork, but a complete replacement.  The consortium was effectively saying "we're the big guys now, and we're going to do this right..."  It is fascinating to see that Smalltalk won out.  I still don't like the compiler changes: never do _to_ the language what you can do _using_ the language.  Well, ok, there are exceptions such as primitives, but Tea really should be an event/announcement system made from ordinary objects (including some weaklings, of course).

I also do not care for the forced 3D immersion idea.  Their code for handling 3D objects was gorgeous, at least when I last looked.  They also appear to have tried to separate some of it for use by other projects.  I need to dig into that.  Hopefully it's the same stuff, but embeddable in a traditional desktop app.

Minor disagreements aside, I wish them well with it, and I'm thrilled to see Smalltalk back on the job :)


From: pharo-project-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces at lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Torsten Bergmann [astares at gmx.de]
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Subject: [Pharo-project] OpenCroquet Website

Bill wrote (on pharo list):
>They appear to back full tilt on the Smalltalk front, using Squeak.

Yes, I know OpenCobalt and I thought of it as a fork.
According to the wikipedia page [1] (which only links to Croquet)
it sits on top of the Croquet SDK. Similar to the Krestianstvo SDK.

However - would be nice if http://www.opencroquet.org
would point also to
 - http://www.opencobalt.org and
 - http://www.krestianstvo.org/
if anyone knows a person who is able to change the page.


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croquet_Project
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