[Pharo-project] new Cog VMs uploaded

Igor Stasenko siguctua at gmail.com
Thu May 5 19:23:11 CEST 2011

On 5 May 2011 18:24, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 4 May 2011 23:39, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse at inria.fr> wrote:
>> > Hi chris
>> >
>> >
>> >> You should be able to extract the code and use it in Pharo/Squeak
>> >> without issue, even if it is GPL.  What you can't do is include it in
>> >> the distribution, since it isn't MIT.  You also shouldn't study the
>> >> code and write your own version of it - I believe that would be a
>> >> derivative work, which would likely make it a GPL derivative.
>> >
>> > so it does not exist and this is better because GPL is viral and we do
>> > not want it.
>> >
>> I finding it really funny that GPL were invented to help open-source
>> to rise and spread,
>> and now its just stands in your way, as any other closed-source
>> proprietary one...
>> >> However, if it was extracted, and you brought it in to do profiling,
>> >> and then removed it afterwards, that shouldn't be an issue at all.
>> >> Just remember to remove it after you no longer need it - that way the
>> >> GPL code won't accidentally creep into the Pharo/Squeak code-base.
>> >>
>> >> Basically, this would be a great example of a project that should be
>> >> an external project and not part of core (or dev).
>> >
>> > the problem is that this kind of philosophy goes against the spirit of
>> > smalltalk
>> > of been able to read and learn the code and modify it.
>> I think that Teleplace has not much choice under which license to
>> release this code,
>> because as long as you using even portion of GPL-ed code, you are
>> forced to use GPL as well.
> You have it backwards.  There is *no* GPL code in OpenQwaq.  If there had
> been the whole project would have had to become GPL and Teleplace could not
> have protected itself against others using the code.  By releasing the code
> as GPL Teleplace's investors retain the sole commercial rights to the code.
>  No-one else can use the code without their contributions becoming GPL.
>  Hence no-one wanting to do commercial development using OpenQwaq can do so
> and protect their contributions.  Teleplace's investors, however, /can/
> subsequently sell or exploit commercial rights to the code, which they still
> hold.

Ah, yes.. sorry. i'm not expert in this legal stuff anyways :)
Thanks for explanation.

Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

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