[Pharo-project] Popularity of Smalltalk in Software Industry

Nicolas Cellier nicolas.cellier.aka.nice at gmail.com
Fri May 6 12:06:41 CEST 2011


Guys, this is crazy, this is a runaway thread ;)
Please, please, a bit more empathy for newcomers would not hurt:
change the subject in such cases.
Welcome to Sourav, don't be afraid to ask this list for anything obscure.
and congratulations to Toon for initial answer.

Nicolas

2011/5/6 Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse at inria.fr>:
> Ok if some good souls want to give a try to generate html.
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> Stef
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>> Probably we should find a way to generate HTML from PDF or Latex.
>> Any ideas?
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>> I've used latex2html several years ago.
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>> +1 for html
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>> Laurent.
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>> >>>> Now for the documentation when did you send an help documentation for any part of the system?
>> >>>> Or a bug fix?
>> >>>> I find quite funny that people always talk but few are doing. We welcome comments/examples help.
>> >>> No need to get into a cat-fight here :)
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>> >> No this is not my point. But what do people really do to help?
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>> >>> I do agree with Stefan, as well as with you that we could help; but I'm unaware of a good documentation effort outside of the image to start with. Camillo's website project might be the best effort I've seen until now; but then I didn't really look either. Maybe I missed some great website?
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>> >> If this is just to spit out class comment on html I do not call that a documentation.
>> >> Now we can take the book contents and generate html
>> >> We have 350 pages in the first book and the same in the second one.
>> >> People are free to join and write one or two chapters.
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>> > Stéphane,
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>> > Of course you are right: wining/complaining doesn't help, only action does. We need more people like Laurent focusing on documentation.
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>> > I for one think that the well written, high quality books that exist (PBE, Seaside Book) are *very valuable*, much better than confusing wiki site (although these have their place as well).
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>> > But the other point is: in most other popular languages, what current, young developers do, when they get an error that they don't understand is copy/paste the literal text in Google and in a surprisingly large number of cases you find some real answers in the first page.
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>> > This is also related to popularity of course.
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>> > Sven
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