[Pharo-project] Problem with Pharo 1.3 in Windows

Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse at inria.fr
Thu May 19 14:06:33 CEST 2011


On May 19, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:

> Stef wrote
>> Now my main questions are
> 
> Hey ... dont take me wrong.

I did not :)
I just took your mail as a pretext to make us all think :)


> I want the build server to
> build the VMs too, I want a repeatable process and
> a reliable VM. I appreciate that we change this!!!
> 
> We all know that if VM development is dependent on a single
> maintainer person then nobody would invest into Pharo, Squeak 
> or Cuis since the truck factor* is one. 
> 
> I support all this. Remember: I was the one who wrote the first
> ConfigurationOfVMMaker so that it is easy to get all the bits 
> and pieces. I want to make it easier for people to dive into 
> VM building.

I know :)

> The windows build slave is a huge step forward ... we
> can not only build the VM and installer ... we can also run
> the tests on Windows too to see if there are platform specific
> issues. Cool and hardly needed!
> 
> But someone (person or team) has to wear the Win32 VM "hat" 
> to check contributions or help fixing a bug. So may question is what 
> is the direction we will take here?

I have the impression that igor will have to have a look at it :)
We did not tell him yet :) but there is a high chance that igor should do something :)

> It looks like the standard SqueakWin32 VM is unmaintained since the 
> last release is from July 2010. We still have no Alien, we still 
> have no callbacks. Yes, there is Cog whose code base is newer 
> but I think Eliots focus is on speed rather than functionality.
> 
> Will we fork from standard VM, will we participate in Eliots
> work or will we fork an own using git and maintain it by picking pieces
> from the other VMs? 

this is not the answer that we can give alone :)

> Also: what can we do to reach the goal of feature complete VM's 
> with aligned version numbers. I think this means to participate on 
> lists like "vm-dev"... 

stef




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