[Pharo-project] Problem with Pharo 1.3 in Windows
stephane.ducasse at inria.fr
Thu May 19 14:06:33 CEST 2011
On May 19, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
> Stef wrote
>> Now my main questions are
> Hey ... dont take me wrong.
I did not :)
I just took your mail as a pretext to make us all think :)
> I want the build server to
> build the VMs too, I want a repeatable process and
> a reliable VM. I appreciate that we change this!!!
> We all know that if VM development is dependent on a single
> maintainer person then nobody would invest into Pharo, Squeak
> or Cuis since the truck factor* is one.
> I support all this. Remember: I was the one who wrote the first
> ConfigurationOfVMMaker so that it is easy to get all the bits
> and pieces. I want to make it easier for people to dive into
> VM building.
I know :)
> The windows build slave is a huge step forward ... we
> can not only build the VM and installer ... we can also run
> the tests on Windows too to see if there are platform specific
> issues. Cool and hardly needed!
> But someone (person or team) has to wear the Win32 VM "hat"
> to check contributions or help fixing a bug. So may question is what
> is the direction we will take here?
I have the impression that igor will have to have a look at it :)
We did not tell him yet :) but there is a high chance that igor should do something :)
> It looks like the standard SqueakWin32 VM is unmaintained since the
> last release is from July 2010. We still have no Alien, we still
> have no callbacks. Yes, there is Cog whose code base is newer
> but I think Eliots focus is on speed rather than functionality.
> Will we fork from standard VM, will we participate in Eliots
> work or will we fork an own using git and maintain it by picking pieces
> from the other VMs?
this is not the answer that we can give alone :)
> Also: what can we do to reach the goal of feature complete VM's
> with aligned version numbers. I think this means to participate on
> lists like "vm-dev"...
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