[Pharo-project] Gettext package?

Johan Brichau johan at inceptive.be
Tue May 24 11:11:58 CEST 2011

Hi guys,

What is the future of the Gettext package in the PharoNonCorePackages repository?
Is the intention to include it in Pharo core? Should that package become a separate project? Something else?

I am asking this because I am using it for internationalization support in our Seaside apps (together with the Gettext-Seaside package by Philippe Marschall).
Hence, I created a port of the relevant parts to GemStone, following the "develop in Pharo, deploy in GemStone" philosophy.

Now, the ported package is a complete duplicate + appropriate changes, but it's better if we create a common package and separate the platform-specific parts out. 
But I would not want to interfere with anyone's plans, specifically Hilaire Fernandes' plans, probably (who seems to be the author of the package).

So, I would like to get in touch with the stakeholders of the package and discuss where it's going.


(see more info below -- mails

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Johan Brichau <johan at inceptive.be>
> Date: 24 May 2011 08:26:33 GMT+02:00
> To: Philippe Marschall <philippe.marschall at gmail.com>
> Cc: GemStone Seaside beta discussion <beta at seaside.gemstone.com>
> Subject: Re: [GS/SS Beta] Gettext (for use by Gettext-Seaside) ported to Gemstone
> Reply-To: GemStone Seaside beta discussion <beta at seaside.gemstone.com>
> Hi Philippe,
> Yes, those are classes I left out (but they don't have the WA prefix).
> I also prefer that there is a shared common package for both platforms but there are more differences spread over several methods.
> Off the top of my head, most differences are located in the MOFile class. Also, the 'startup' methods that are used to trigger a locale refresh when starting the Pharo image are not applicable in Gemstone.
> I'm willing to work towards a common package + platform-specific packages. Probably, we have to hear what the Pharo people (and specifically Hilaire Fernandes) think about it. 
> cheers
> Johan
> On 23 May 2011, at 20:08, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>> 2011/5/23 Johan Brichau <johan at inceptive.be>:
>>> Hi all,
>>> The Gettext [1] implementation of Pharo has now been ported to Gemstone, such that we can use it for internationalization in web applications together with Gettext-Seaside.
>>> More precisely, the Gettext package is a prerequisite for Gettext-Seaside.
>>> With the "develop in Pharo, deploy in Gemstone" philosophy, I ported only those parts that are required to deploy the translation files in the Seaside web apps.
>>> The implementation that generates translation files from the codebase is a bit more entrenched into platform-specific libraries. So, one has to generate the translation catalogs to disk in Pharo, edit them with a tool like poedit, and deploy the locale with the Gemstone deployment.
>> Clever. I guess WAGetTextExporter and WATranslatedArgumentsFinder are
>> the classes that don't work in Gemstone. If so I could split the
>> package into a portable part and a Pharo part so you don't need to
>> load them im GemSonte.
>> Cheers
>> Philippe

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