[Pharo-project] Gettext package?

Johan Brichau johan at inceptive.be
Wed May 25 13:27:10 CEST 2011


Ok thanks Hilaire.

I will take a look at the current state of the package in etoys and split up the code as I mentioned.
I'm new to this kind of internationalization stuff, so I will do some work as part of internationalizing our web apps.

On 24 May 2011, at 23:13, Hilaire Fernandes wrote:

> I ported the gettext package from Etoys to Pharo with help of other
> (Henrik).
> I have to admit I mostly forgot about its internal, even if I amn using
> it for DrGeo.
> In between, some part of the gettext package in Etoys was improved, I
> forgot which part exactly. Bert may remember a bit more.
> 
> Do whatever you think is appropriate with the package. As you hacked the
> package recently you are definitely in a better position to split it in
> different component.
> 
> Hilaire
> 
> Le 24/05/2011 11:11, Johan Brichau a écrit :
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> What is the future of the Gettext package in the PharoNonCorePackages repository?
>> Is the intention to include it in Pharo core? Should that package become a separate project? Something else?
>> 
>> I am asking this because I am using it for internationalization support in our Seaside apps (together with the Gettext-Seaside package by Philippe Marschall).
>> Hence, I created a port of the relevant parts to GemStone, following the "develop in Pharo, deploy in GemStone" philosophy.
>> 
>> Now, the ported package is a complete duplicate + appropriate changes, but it's better if we create a common package and separate the platform-specific parts out. 
>> But I would not want to interfere with anyone's plans, specifically Hilaire Fernandes' plans, probably (who seems to be the author of the package).
>> 
>> So, I would like to get in touch with the stakeholders of the package and discuss where it's going.
>> 
>> cheers
>> Johan
>> 
>> (see more info below -- mails
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Johan Brichau <johan at inceptive.be>
>>> Date: 24 May 2011 08:26:33 GMT+02:00
>>> To: Philippe Marschall <philippe.marschall at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: GemStone Seaside beta discussion <beta at seaside.gemstone.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [GS/SS Beta] Gettext (for use by Gettext-Seaside) ported to Gemstone
>>> Reply-To: GemStone Seaside beta discussion <beta at seaside.gemstone.com>
>>> 
>>> Hi Philippe,
>>> 
>>> Yes, those are classes I left out (but they don't have the WA prefix).
>>> 
>>> I also prefer that there is a shared common package for both platforms but there are more differences spread over several methods.
>>> Off the top of my head, most differences are located in the MOFile class. Also, the 'startup' methods that are used to trigger a locale refresh when starting the Pharo image are not applicable in Gemstone.
>>> 
>>> I'm willing to work towards a common package + platform-specific packages. Probably, we have to hear what the Pharo people (and specifically Hilaire Fernandes) think about it. 
>>> 
>>> cheers
>>> Johan
>>> 
>>> On 23 May 2011, at 20:08, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 2011/5/23 Johan Brichau <johan at inceptive.be>:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Gettext [1] implementation of Pharo has now been ported to Gemstone, such that we can use it for internationalization in web applications together with Gettext-Seaside.
>>>>> More precisely, the Gettext package is a prerequisite for Gettext-Seaside.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With the "develop in Pharo, deploy in Gemstone" philosophy, I ported only those parts that are required to deploy the translation files in the Seaside web apps.
>>>>> The implementation that generates translation files from the codebase is a bit more entrenched into platform-specific libraries. So, one has to generate the translation catalogs to disk in Pharo, edit them with a tool like poedit, and deploy the locale with the Gemstone deployment.
>>>> 
>>>> Clever. I guess WAGetTextExporter and WATranslatedArgumentsFinder are
>>>> the classes that don't work in Gemstone. If so I could split the
>>>> package into a portable part and a Pharo part so you don't need to
>>>> load them im GemSonte.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Philippe
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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